Posts by Mad Sweeney

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I`ll play the devils advocate : generation change

by smiddy in

i have the wt may 15 1994 scan with the birthdates & deaths of the 16 people featured, and it occured to me using wt logic,that you could extend the generation timespan this way.. #6 d.d.

was born in 1892 and died in 1984. that was the earliest birth of this group.

#4 j.e was born in 1912 and died in 1997. the age gap between these two is 20 years.

Mad Sweeney

There's never a succubus around when you need one!

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New Song - "Blinded By New Light"

by RayPublisher in

the generation wasnt right (repeat).

Mad Sweeney

Hey, can I play it on Cult Free Radio this Saturday?

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UK newspaper interest in "mentally diseased", any Witnesses want to come forward?

by cedars in

following the recent activity surrounding the "mentally diseased" apostate article, a major uk newspaper has expressed an interest in covering the story.

the correspondent as been told about this forum, and he is particularly interested in hearing from those inside the organisation, as i think few people are aware of how much unrest there is actually within witness ranks at the teachings of the society.. would anybody like to be used as a source, either anonymously or otherwise?

if so, it might be worthwhile saying a few words on this thread.

Mad Sweeney

Has anyone taken the time for a comparison of the "regular" and "simplified" versions? Often the simplified one gets right to the heart of Borg negativity. I haven't really looked at this particular one, though.

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UK newspaper interest in "mentally diseased", any Witnesses want to come forward?

by cedars in

following the recent activity surrounding the "mentally diseased" apostate article, a major uk newspaper has expressed an interest in covering the story.

the correspondent as been told about this forum, and he is particularly interested in hearing from those inside the organisation, as i think few people are aware of how much unrest there is actually within witness ranks at the teachings of the society.. would anybody like to be used as a source, either anonymously or otherwise?

if so, it might be worthwhile saying a few words on this thread.

Mad Sweeney

This was merely one six-paragraph subheading in a study article. In just six paragraphs all of the following terms were used:

“Not content, ravenous wolves, leading them away from truth, cunning, corruptive, smugglers, clandestine, like clever forgers, having fabricated views, false arguments, deceptive teachings, twisting the scriptures, not having others best interests at heart, false teachers, infected with a contagious deadly disease, and mentally diseased, dried-up wells that deceive and disappoint.”

Depending on how you count that is 17 or more slanderous terms in just six paragraphs.

And the other articles in that issue have more crap scattered throughout.

33

Sad and hilarious at the same time.

by Shador in

lol.

so my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that jws are not a cult.

they just checked two different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to jws.

Mad Sweeney

Good point, George. How can anyone read Combating Cult Mind Control by Hassan and not see the Watchtower/JWs throughout?

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Sad and hilarious at the same time.

by Shador in

lol.

so my parents are studying how to convince one of their bible studies that jws are not a cult.

they just checked two different dictionaries, realized that the definitions given could, indeed, apply to jws.

Mad Sweeney

The Borg misrepresents what a cult is in order to show that they're not one.

A cult has nothing to do with following a single human leader, nor isolating its members physically from the rest of society.

A cult, for example, could have a committee of SEVEN human leaders acting as one AND convince its members to be "no part of the world" they live in.

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So who is going to do some kind of protest next Sunday?

by serenitynow! in

jw
friends

next sunday is the discussion of the 7/15/2011 wt article about shunning.

i am planning to stand outside of a kh on a major street with a big banner that says that the jws do indeed destroy families with their shunning policy.

i will have many copies of the article that will be discussed that day.. anyone else have any plans?.

Mad Sweeney

serenitynow! protesting can be useful and do some good if you have the time and inclination to engage in it. It isn't the end-all of the Watchtower but if you're in a high traffic area and have a catchy sign you may inspire someone to look up the Borg online and then refuse the litterature the next time a Dub knocks at their door. There may even be some positive effects on those attending the meeting, but that is less likely. Even so, if it helps one person to not become a JW, that's worth it. There is no WMD to bring down the Borg but that doesn't mean we can't keep chipping away as we can.

If you are in somewhere NOT the USA then protesting is often considered an accepted way of communicating with the public. In the USA, though, as mentioned by several posters, it is often looked at askance. So your mileage may vary.

Cult Free Radio #005 discussed the topic of protesting with an experienced Borg protestor from Canada. The mp3 can be found here:

http://ex-jw.com/web-directory/cult-free-radio-archives-1-6

I hope to have the show up on youtube sometime soon, too.

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Do you agree with this sentiment?

by mankkeli in

jw
friends

i copied this text from a friend's wall on facebook, do you agree with his sentiment?.

"this world is not our home.

we are strangers here.

Mad Sweeney

No. In fact I don't think I could disagree more.

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Another question for those who attended the "Mentally Diseased" Watchtower

by cantleave in

nugget and i are helping amelia prepare for her statement to the police tomorrow.

one of the possible objections is that the term "mentally diseased" is metaphorical.. when people answered on this paragraph did they say "people who leave are metally diseased" or did they say "they are like mentally diseased" people?.

if they said the former it would indicate that they did not take it metaphorically..

Mad Sweeney

If anyone recorded the entire meeting it would probably be great evidence to use.

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Wording of "mentally diseased" press release - feedback?

by cedars in

as some of you may know, i am working with trailerfitter and cantleave in helping amelia with her efforts to complain about the latest "apostates are mentally diseased" article.

she has an appointment with local police tomorrow afternoon, as she has lodged a complaint under the 'hate crimes' act.

it has been suggested that this issue may merit some media coverage, and with this in mind i have prepared a draft press release.

Mad Sweeney

little if nothing

Is that an idiomatic expression in the UK? If so, good. To this American it seems awkward. We would say either "little or nothing" or "little to nothing" instead, but it could well be a dialect thing and perfectly acceptable grammar.

The purpose of the article was evidently to block any current Witnesses from discovering the truth about the organisation’s history, and its increasingly discredited beliefs.

I would soften this a little (and I LIKE tweaking them with their own "evidently" lingo): "The purpose of the article was evidently to block current Witnesses from discovering information and evidence about the organisation's history and uniquely dubious doctrines."